David Lynch: Music and Movies
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The Hollywood Reporter Film & TV Music Special Issue

DIRECTOR'S NOTES

LIKE A DRUG...

David explains how he uses music, both on and off the set, to help shape his disturbing vision.

by Andy Klein

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No director employs more types of music in as many different ways as David

Lynch. Take his 1990 film, "Wild at Heart." The soundtrack includes jazz,

both old (Glen Gray's "Smoke Rings") and original ("Cool Cat Walk"), pre

existing rock-'n'-roll tracks, from GeneVincent's '50s classic "Be-Bop a

Lula" to Them's 60's version of "Baby Please Don't Go" to Powermad's speed metal

romp "Slaughterhouse." It also includes the original off-kilter blue tune

"Up in Flames," sung by Koko Taylor and written by Lynch and regular

collaborator Angelo Badalamenti ; an orchestral selection from the Richard

Strauss lied "Im Abendrot"; and relatively conventional instrumental film

music." Dark Spanish Symphony" and "Dark Lolita," also by Badalamenti.

Every director has his own way of working with composers, but Lynch's

ongoing relationship with Badalamenti is closer and more collaborative

than those of such famous teams as Alfred Hitchcock and Bernard Herrmann,

or Stephen Spielberg and John Williams.

Lynch hooked up with Badalamenti when the latter was hired to help

Isabella Rossellini with her singing in "Blue Velvet." The two men

collaborated on the song "Mysteries of Love" and have worked together on

all of Lynch's subsequent film projects, as well as "Twin Peaks" and other

TV projects, and the stage work "Industrial Symphony #1." Besides his work

for Lynch, Badalamenti has done the music for Paul Schrader's "The Comfort

of Strangers," Norman Mailer's "Tough Guys Don't Dance" and Bob

Balaban's "Parents."

"There 's a thing in a film where it's too bad, I don't think the

composers like it anymore than the directors do - usually the composer comes

in at the last minute." Lynch says "No matter how you talk to them, they can't

go off and write everything perfectly. Sometimes you don't have enough time

to rewrite and redo and give and take until it gets to be perfect. You have to do

work with what you have"

Among composers of the old school, Lynch particularly admires

Herrmann and Franz Waxman. "I think Jacques Tati worked with sound and

music better than most anybody I've seen, "says Lynch. "Billy Wilder - I

always like his choices of things. And Stanley Kubrick, of course."

After using some old Fats Waller organ instrumentals on "Eraserhead", Lynch

worked in a more conventional way on his first two Hollywood films, teaming with

John Morris on "The Elephant Man" and the pop groups Toto on "Dune."

"I think they did a great job, and I loved working with John

Morris and Toto, " Lynch says. "But Angelo has become a really good friend

of mine, and I talk to him all the time. We've got a lot of projects going.

So we can talk up front, and we can create temp things that inspire a lot

of shooting. Which is really a great way to work."

Music is important to Lynch's work, even at the script stage.

"Sometimes I listen to music to get ideas," he says. "Every film has its

own inspiration from music. It helps you write and get ideas. I tell those

musical inspirations to Angelo, and he understands the mood and writes and

original thing with that mood in mind.

Lynch then uses that music on the set. " I don't play it on the

set out loud, " he continues. "I have them pipe it through my headphones so

that I'm hearing the dialogue and some music as we're shooting. No one

else is hearing it except me.

In the old days they use to have an orchestra on the set, and it

would make a mood.

Sometimes I have the DP listening to the same music, because when they're

panning the camera, I can say 'slow' or 'fast,' and it's all relative. But

if they're listening to that music, man, they turn those wheels just

perfect. It just gives you that added thing to nail down the correct mood.

On 'Wild At Heart' and 'Twin Peaks', we had a lot of music that we

were listening to. I'd play it up front to the actors, and they had tapes

they could listen to as they were working.

"Now when Angelo and I work, he doesn't score the picture in the

normal way {with rigid stop and start marks]. He gives me lots of raw

material , lots of beautiful music. In the mix I can juggle it around.

Lately I have been sitting on the board and have been the music mixer. I've

got technical people all around me to make sure it's working. But I can

feel it and do it and work with the sound effects and the music. It's just

based on feeling and experimenting until you get it right."

While growing up, Lynch played the trumpet for four years. He

listened to the usual pop-radio fare, was exposed to classical music at

home and had some familiarity with jazz - though "not a lot. " Lynch

admits. "When I was little, listening to Dave Brubeck was pretty much it."

Not Mingus? "No, I wasn't so cool."

Lynch's eclectic musical tastes are clearly important to him, but

"I'm not a musician," he says "I've been brought into the world of music by

Angelo and by sound effects."

Early in his career while working with sound designer Alan Splet,

Lynch became known for his use of sound effects and (in particular)

industrial noise as a sort of film music concrete. "But it's not like I

have one thing on a little roll of tape that I just like to slug in every

once in a while, " he says . "The picture for the most part dictates the

sound - music or sound effects - but sometimes in the reverse.

"Actually, I think sound effects are music. You can have a feel

for things, and you don't really know where it comes from. And I just have

a love for sound effects as music. Now - thanks to Angelo - I'm sort of

able to get into the world of music as well,"

On TV projects, Lynch's concern with the audio elements in his

work has been a source of frustration because of the poor sound quality of

most TV sets. "Unfortunately, you have to take that into account, " he

says. "The technician will tell you that the speakers will just rattle. It

may sound great [in the studio] but it's not gonna sound great [at home].

Maybe other people do it all the time, be we learned the hard way that you

have to mix by playing everything back through the cheapest TV you can get.

The sound adds so much. Everybody's renting videos, but if they

could hear it on the big screen the way it's supposed to be, it's...it's

just....the hair on your neck stands up. And it doesn't stand up when you

hear it on a little screen. There's no power."

"Sound is almost like a drug. It's so pure that when it goes in

you ears, it instantly does something to you. And you can tell if that's

working for you. [Building a mix is a process] action and reaction to

sounds until you get something that fills the bill. It's action and

reaction to this pure power.

"The thing that I'm after is when the whole becomes greater than

the sum of the parts. It's so beautifully abstract. The great thing is that

it can't be picked to death and talked about to death, because it's so

fantastically complicated. It's a beautiful realm to experiment in. There's

a magical thing that happens that elevates it to another place. And it

can't happen until everything is there. It can jump in those last moments

and it has to do with sound and picture working together in a certain way.

It's such an abstract thing. It's just impossible to guarantee it happening.

 

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